Opened 15 years ago

Closed 15 years ago

Last modified 15 years ago

#1841 closed defect (invalid)

LOOMCD: incorrect scenes shown

Reported by: SF/khalek Owned by: SF/khalek
Priority: high Component: Engine: SCUMM
Keywords: Cc:
Game: Loom


For some as yet unknown to me reason Loom CD now
appears to show the dialog scenes from the disk/FM
TOWNS versions ie the closeups when it shouldn't. This
is most noticeable at mandible's tower.

Tested with a CVS build on OpenBSD/i386, save will be
added after I give it another run through.

Ticket imported from: #1082838. Ticket imported from: bugs/1841.

Change History (12)

comment:1 by fingolfin, 15 years ago

If you could be a bit more specific about what exactly is
wrong, and how to reproduce it, then others could look into
the problem, too (like me :-).

comment:2 by sev-, 15 years ago

To cite kahlek:
<khalek> you could probably cheat to see it early on
<khalek> to drafts learn then unmake the loom at the start
<khalek> chaos should show the portrait at some point

comment:3 by eriktorbjorn, 15 years ago

> <khalek> chaos should show the portrait at some point

What's wrong with that? No one ever said Loom CD did away
with *all* of the close-ups. Just most of them. It's been
showing close-ups of Chaos for as long as I can remember,
including one scene where it didn't in the original
16-colour version.

comment:4 by SF/khalek, 15 years ago

ok that was a bad example, but I think the scene with the
bishop is wrong. I just don't have a save yet to double check.

comment:5 by eriktorbjorn, 15 years ago

I'm still not clear on which close-ups it shows that it
shouldn't. Bobbin? Cobb? Mandible? Chaos? Bobbin and
Mandible together?

(All I have at the moment is an old savegame where things
work as they always did, but that's hardly conclusive.)

comment:6 by SF/khalek, 15 years ago

Bobbin and mandible was the one that I first took issue
with, I will need to confirm this with an older version I think.

comment:7 by eriktorbjorn, 15 years ago

Do you mean the one like in ?

I don't know for sure whether or not that screenshot was
made with the original interpreter or with ScummVM, of
course, but from what I remember ScummVM has always shown
that scene. In fact, I don't think that particular close-up
is even present in the original EGA version.

comment:8 by SF/ender, 15 years ago

So, has anybody actually confirmed there is something going
on here?

Played through a few of my saves, and I didn't notice anything
that I haven't seen before :P

comment:9 by SF/celemar, 15 years ago

Loom CD always shows these closeups:

Bobbin at the beginning

Mandible and the Glassmaker Crucible standing at the Sphere
of Scrying

Mandible and Bobbin talking on the parapet

Chaos (both when he kills Mandible and when the Loom is unmade)

Having recently played the game with DOSbox, I can confirm this.

(Interestingly, besides the disk version closeups, there are
also other closeups in the resource files, created
especially for the CD, that aren't used either. For
instance, there's one of Fleece and Bobbin in the hut. Also,
there are two blurry ones, featuring Hetchel and Chaos, that
are programmed to move very quickly; they were obviously
meant as a primitive attempt at lip-syncing. But none of
those show up in the actual gameplay.)

comment:10 by SF/khalek, 15 years ago

Status: newclosed

comment:11 by SF/khalek, 15 years ago

Owner: set to SF/khalek
Resolution: invalid

comment:12 by SF/khalek, 15 years ago

I don't have time to play through now but it is sounding
ever more like I am wrong on this. closing

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