TWP: In part 3, Teddy bear and passport may not be present in Boris's hotel room

[DjDiabolik]

After about two hours blocked on this point (attach savegames) i have read on italian solution i have two found two important object in the hotel rooms:
​https://www.adventuresplanet.it/scheda_soluzione.php?game=thimbleweedpark#4

I should have found a passport and a teddy bear on the bed.

instead I'm in the indicated room.. now 307 but as you can see there is absolutely no teddy bear on the bed and no passport on the table.

So the games problably as today it's not completable.....

[DjDiabolik]

It's present some strange bug with this games.....

Now i'm try to load a very old savegames... go to the hotel and open the room 307 and PASSPORT and BEAR it's correctly appear in the room.

After that i back to be load the SAME savefile upload here and BAAAM NOW the PASSPORT and TABLES in in the room!

I have made a new save game after i pick this two object (upload after that) and now if i load the TWP.038 no PASSPORT/BEAR inside room but if i load the TWP.039 i have the passport and bear on my inventory!!

What a STANGE BUG. how it's possible ?? what just happened?

[DjDiabolik]

@Tag2015....

With some many difficult and so many bug or similar during all story i have reach the Part 7 (i can add savegame later the reply).

I have reach the inside of the pillow factory.... when i reach the hallway and i try to enter the games goes in crash and scummvm completely close and back to desktop of os.

So.... at this point i can't exactly remember how many bugs i have found... for example about 5 minutes i need to recharge the battery of van.

For made that i have need to reach the electric fence:
Need to use the TOXIC materials in the puddle! At this point if you try to do this with DELORES absolutely nothing happens.

I have need to do this with Ray... exit from forest.. reenter and ONLY RIGHT the path of footprints appeared on the ground. This is another strange bug ?

Problably i can also upload savegame to this point... when i need to recharge the battery and need to use the TOXIC material on puddle...

Upload after this reply.

[DjDiabolik]

So... on TWP.058 you have the battery completely discharged. With that point you can try to use the TOXIC Material on puddle. You can see it's impossible to do that with DELORES or similar. A strange bug.

On my, currently latest, TWP.061 it's the immediatelly start of "Part 7" inside the pillow factory. Reach the hallway and try to enter inside it and scummvm CRASH immediatelly and you back on Desktop of your OS.. lol.

So.... i don't have idea if this games it's completable but during all the gameplay so many part need to be revisited because it's present to many object it's on your inventory and it's useless (like on TWP.058 the pigeon brothers' business card) and other little things.

I thinks some developers need to replay the entire games with debugger windows open on fix so many part of gameplay.. Thanks in advance to make this supported games great and ever better.

[DjDiabolik]

But there are other strange points as already mentioned.

So for example if correct on TWP.058 look the inventory some carachter have a double object like the "valve puller"!
Yeah because before you can obtain the "protective gloves for berzeccoli" you can speak to "Rickie" valve store and you can give a mysterious payment receipt (problably you have already do this on third part or second part of the games) and Rickie will deliver to you infinite valve pullers. LOL...

Or again... another two or three point when you can completely crash scummvm..

On TWP.058... try to use the strange object in inventory on a valve.... the games crash.

Or again... before to get the protective gloves try to collect the strawberry trees without gloves -> Problably after some minutes you have trigger a death by bleeding but here the scummvm completely crash.

Or again... for entire games in so many particular cases you can listen Ransome speak with a STRANGE PITCH effect!! And Ransome speak soooooo maaaanyyy slowly so much so that you can't understand what he's saying. You can reload same point and made same thing and right now Ransome speak without any issue at correct speed.

So... as already say... the entire games and engine need to be check in so many part...

[tag2015]

It's sad that you found that many bugs. The crash when entering the factory is an old one, I reported it months ago and it was fixed, seems it's back again.

Anyway I can asssure you that the game was completable with minor issues months ago (I tested it myself). I'm sure the main dev will have a look soon

[DjDiabolik]

Lol ok... I'm simply reporting the little problems I'm encountering while replaying this wonderful adventure through scummvm :) I hope that everything I'm doing is appreciated and above all I hope to do it at my best considering that English is not my main language.

So i have reach the "Episode 7" so, even with all the various problems more or less listed and scattered here and there among these reports, the game seems completable.

In the factory corridor maybe I have in Dolores' inventory the book to reprogram the sr-01 robots.. I don't know if that's the solution I'll try :)

[scemino]

Are you still able to reproduce the crashes?
I can't reproduce them.

[DjDiabolik]

Replying to scemino:

Are you still able to reproduce the crashes?
I can't reproduce them.

I don't have idea... i'm pass this point and i'm stuck at pillow factory without some object on the ramsome inventory. I don't idea if i need to restart the game directly from beginning..

[scemino]

You can go to the debug window and type ! pickupObject(dime) for example to add the dime in your inventory.

[DjDiabolik]

Replying to scemino:

You can go to the debug window and type ! pickupObject(dime) for example to add the dime in your inventory.

i'm try to use both Debian build (master and daily) in Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS.

I have try so many different keyboard combo for open the console debugger like... most it's completely ignored.
CTRL+ALT+D -> it's minimized scummvm and bring back to ubuntu desktop

You have some idea how i can use them ?

I have and idea to buy the linux version but i need to restart the games from beginning.. lol :)

[scemino]

Go to Global Options -> Keymaps and set an easier key map for it (Open Debugger action)?
If "Ctrl+Alt+D" is a combo that does something outside of ScummVM, ie, if it's something set in the Desktop environment, then there should be a way to find it and clear it.
Here ​https://askubuntu.com/questions/27775/how-do-i-minimize-all-the-windows-using-a-keyboard-shortcut (quite old thread) they mention that Ctrl + Super + D minimizes all windows. But more importantly they mention how you can access the keymap settings and changes them in Ubuntu

[DjDiabolik]

Replying to scemino:

Go to Global Options -> Keymaps and set an easier key map for it (Open Debugger action)?
If "Ctrl+Alt+D" is a combo that does something outside of ScummVM, ie, if it's something set in the Desktop environment, then there should be a way to find it and clear it.
Here ​https://askubuntu.com/questions/27775/how-do-i-minimize-all-the-windows-using-a-keyboard-shortcut (quite old thread) they mention that Ctrl + Super + D minimizes all windows. But more importantly they mention how you can access the keymap settings and changes them in Ubuntu

Lol apparently i can minimize also with browser.. i use CTRL+ALT+D and bang.. back on desktop :)

But also CTRL+Super+D bring back to desktop.... i try to set CTRL+SHIFT+D.

After that i need to found the correct command to add candy dispenser on ransome inventory... lol

[DjDiabolik]

OOOHHH MY GOD it's works:
​https://ibb.co/HTTH5jqQ

Apparently it's not possibly anymore to copy and paste image here directly ?

Anyway need to found the list of object and try to add candy dispenser...

[scemino]

Can I close the ticket?