Opened 6 months ago

Last modified 6 months ago

#10769 new defect

QFG4: Self-dialogue to Chief, msgs don't reflect monster/man state

Reported by: Vhati Owned by:
Priority: low Component: Engine: SCI
Keywords: SCI32 original Cc:
Game: Quest for Glory 4

Description

ScummVM 2.1.0git3770-g15306581ab (Oct 18 2018 04:27:32)
Windows 7 64bit
QFG4 CD (English)

In the thieves' guild... When clicking MOUTH on the hero and making the thief sign, the message refers to Chief as a monster. If you give him the statue to turn him back into a human, the message will still refer to him as a monster.

"Feeling like an idiot (as you generally do when making the sign), you go through the motions of performing the Thief Sign to the monster."

It's in both text and audio, technically fixable with code if playback can be stopped early or range-limited.

The original interpreter also does this.

File - 5kb MD5 - Full MD5
RESOURCE.000 - 263dce4aa34c49d3ad29bec889007b1c - 1364ba69e3c0abb68cc0170650a56692
RESOURCE.AUD - c39521bffb1d8b19a57394866184a0ca - 71098b9e97e20c8941c0e4812d5f906f
RESOURCE.MAP - aba367f2102e81782d961b14fbe3d630 - 801a04cc6aa5d437681a2dd0b6545248
RESOURCE.SFX - 3cf95e09dab8b11d675e0537e18b499a - 7c858d7253f86dab4cc6066013c5ecec

Attachments (4)

sci.008 (64.7 KB) - added by Vhati 6 months ago.
SavedGame (CD) - Make Thief Sign
sci.022 (54.9 KB) - added by Vhati 6 months ago.
SavedGame (Floppy) - Make Thief Sign
sci.015 (63.6 KB) - added by Vhati 6 months ago.
SavedGame (CD) - Tell about Burgomeister
sci.064 (53.1 KB) - added by Vhati 6 months ago.
SavedGame (Floppy) - Tell about Burgomeister

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Change History (8)

Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Attachment: sci.008 added

SavedGame (CD) - Make Thief Sign

comment:1 Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

It's in the floppy edition under ScummVM, and its original interpreter, too.


ScummVM 2.1.0git3770-g15306581ab (Oct 18 2018 04:27:32)
Windows 7 64bit
QFG4 Floppy 1.1a + note patch (English)

File - 5kb MD5 - Full MD5
RESOURCE.000 - f64fd6aa3977939a86ff30783dd677e1 - ff42260a665995a85aeb277ad80aac8a
RESOURCE.MAP - d10a4cc177d2091d744e2ad8c049b0ae - 3695b1b0a1d15f3d324ea9f0cc325245
RESOURCE.SFX - 3cf95e09dab8b11d675e0537e18b499a - 7c858d7253f86dab4cc6066013c5ecec

Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Attachment: sci.022 added

SavedGame (Floppy) - Make Thief Sign

comment:2 Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Audio fiddling was if one wanted to preserve every bit of John Rhys-Davies. :P

Simpler solution: substitute the narration from elsewhere, as with Nikolai, outside Cranium's house.
"You put your thumb on your nose and wiggle your fingers while rubbing the other hand on your belly."

comment:3 Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Found another: telling Chief about the Burgomeister burglary.


These are the self-dialogue results for both CD and Floppy editions under ScummVM, and their original interpreters.

Monster Chief

  • [...]
  • "Old man's house"
    • "You tell the Chief about your break in at the Old Man's house."
  • "Burgomeister's office"
    • "You tell the monster about your break-in at the Burgomeister's office."
  • "Make Thief Sign"
    • "Feeling like an idiot (as you generally do when making the Sign), you go through the motions of performing the Thief Sign to the monster."

Human Chief, recently transformed

  • "Monastery break in"
    • No narrator. Chief immediately replies. (This is another simple solution to faulty narration.)
  • [...]
  • "Make Thief Sign"
    • "Feeling like an idiot (as you generally do when making the Sign), you go through the motions of performing the Thief Sign to the monster."

Human Chief, after re-entering

  • [...]
  • "Old man's house"
    • "You tell the Chief about your break in at the Old Man's House."
  • "Burgomeister's office"
    • "You tell the monster about your break-in at the Burgomeister's office."
  • "Make Thief Sign"
    • "Feeling like an idiot (as you generally do when making the Sign), you go through the motions of performing the Thief Sign to the monster."



Bonus: "break-in" vs "break in". *eyeroll*

It's a little odd that burglary mentions are split that way. Limited screen real estate, I guess.

Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Attachment: sci.015 added

SavedGame (CD) - Tell about Burgomeister

Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Attachment: sci.064 added

SavedGame (Floppy) - Tell about Burgomeister

comment:4 Changed 6 months ago by Vhati

Summary: QFG4: Making Thief Sign to Chief, msg doesn't reflect monster/man stateQFG4: Self-dialogue to Chief, msgs don't reflect monster/man state
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